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Re: Ashes

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:01 pm
by EdDog
And that's all she wrote!

So close but just couldn't get there.

100% correct decision on the DRS.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:04 pm
by Interloper
The 'hotspot' was on the bat before the ball passed and the sound came after. The 3rd umpire needs some lessons in causality I think.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:47 am
by Stuckey
Looked out to me first time round. I thought we'd gotten away with one there!

IMO we got a lot closer then we really should have. Our middle order seriously let us down. But we have exposed England's inability to bowl sides out and they complete reliance on Swan and Anderson.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:17 am
by EdDog
Yeah, regardless of that decision, we were very poor. Did well to get so close.

Gives us hope for the series though!

Interloper - what else could he have hit?

There was no pad, pitch or anything else anywhere near his bat.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:33 pm
by sevengoals
So close...

Re: Ashes

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:36 am
by Interloper
Yeah, regardless of that decision, we were very poor. Did well to get so close.

Gives us hope for the series though!

Interloper - what else could he have hit?

There was no pad, pitch or anything else anywhere near his bat.
the sound could have been Pad on Pad, anything really. Granted the 3rd umpire doesn't have the magic/possibly bullshit "Snickometer" to judge so I don't expect him to use that.

But he can't use the sound until he has definitive vision and the only shot you can see the alleged hotspot on the bat is from the side and you didn't get a view of the bat from before the ball passed it (due to being behind the batsman,) considering the mark in question was smaller and dimmer than the glare of the sun on the ball (clearly visible) it's highly dubious proof.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:31 am
by Agostinho
I thought the 2 bits of evidence combined (the snicko and the hotspot) were compelling enough and the right call was made. I reckon England weren't convinced though and just chanced it.

Thought the Agar decision was the right one - although I'm 99% sure he was out, that 1% doubt was enough to give him the benefit. Trott's was a strange decision - even though there was no hotspot the ball clearly deviated. And the fact that the umpire gave him not out I didn't think they should have overruled.

All in all not a great match for the umpires. That Broad decision was the worst I've seen.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:20 am
by Interloper
The evidence in the videos used is not enough to confirm or deny anything for me. I would have left whatever the umpire on the field said either way.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:24 am
by Stuckey
Set up is ready at Lord's had a chat to Buck today and he's ready to go and right at home being a Middlesex boy! 18 months I've been waiting for this C'mon lads!

Re: Ashes

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:19 pm
by sevengoals
^^^
Right in the thick of it.

Excellent!

Where will you be during the match?
Where is your station?

Re: Ashes

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:02 pm
by sevengoals
Hammered.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:42 pm
by Stuckey
^^^
Right in the thick of it.

Excellent!

Where will you be during the match?
Where is your station?
I was managing a bar in a hospitality suite. £950 per head :shock: Although I work 60 hours in 4 days I loved every second of the experience! Pity bought our lousy batting!

Was it just me or did basically very single close call go England's way?

Re: Ashes

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:20 am
by sevengoals
^
That's the luck you make for yourself when you are playing well.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:29 pm
by Stuckey
^
That's the luck you make for yourself when you are playing well.
That's the thing. Series like these often the momentum swings between the sides England has one good session then after lunch Australia takes it back with a few quick wickets. This is destroyed when every single tight call goes England's way. I agree we batted stupidly, with Watson, Khawaja, Hughes and Clarke all giving their wicket away though.

Re: Ashes

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:07 am
by EdDog
I don't think it was luck. England have been far and away the better side in both test matches from my perspective. Umpiring decisions aside.

We were lucky to get away with a close loss in the second after our #11 nearly made a freak ton.

Other than that we have been dismal.