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China's plan for football domination could transform the HAL

Postby Stuckey Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:52 am

A leading player agent has revealed he's seen the document that details China's plan to take world football by storm - and the A-League has been identified as a key component in their predicted rise to the top.
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Part of me is surprised this hasn't take place much more already. But I wouldn't be surprised if soon we see a HAL club owned by a CSL club similarly to Melb City.
Hopefully the FFA are smart about this and look at making new investment like this work for the league. Making interested parties start a new club of their own in a area that would otherwise struggle to fund their own side like North Queensland or Tasmania.
I wonder if AU's developing relationship with Shandong means they are a chance of investment?
In the end with the amount of money we're talking I think if they truly want to invest they will. So its a case of making it work for the FFA in the first place over hindering to the point that it might be done for the wrong reasons.
Very interesting times ahead.

On the point of the Sainsbury contract. That sort of money is astounding. IMO he's really not miles ahead of other HAL CBs to think that a CSL club could come to a HAL player and drop 10 times what they are currently earning is ridiculous. But also incredibly surprising that it isn't occurring much more. To me it seems like a no-brainer to sign up players like Boogs, Euge and Vukovic. Or many of the visa players, players like Berisha or Cirio would surely do well over there.
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Re: China's plan for football domination could transform the

Postby shinAUFC Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:12 am

Ive been calling this fir years now.

Quality will always go where the money. There are a few billion people in asia making the jump from poverty to middle class almost overnight and they want all the thing we have in the west.

Just like australian business expanding into asia, this will be a great thing for aus football
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Postby ade-qpr Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:38 am

Have always said population is the key. The bigger the pop the bigger the talent pool and more money involved in the game. Looking at the junior pathways thro Oz is another barrier in recognizing and developing that talent. Lastly China doesn't have the competitive problem like all other leading nations of the world that Oz does with competition from other football codes thus stopping World football/soccer from being the number one sport in the country.
China in a rough guess is nearly the same as Europe in pop thus talent pool but without the development pathways but also with plenty of money although their wages would be less but so would their costs in developing the game bar the wages for foreign people.
So overall wouldn't be surprised if they shot up the rankings over the next decade or two. Also have thought outside of Europe/South America with USA and may be Russia the other could be the sleeping giants that could win the World Cup.
As for Oz yes their investment would be good for the growth of our game but would, I believe for a limited amount of time make us a feeder league to their Super league until their standards improved especially the 3 plus 1 asian player for comps like the ACL. Later with their standards lifting would lead them to competing with Europe for the best players but the 3 plus 1 rule if it stayed in effect means Oz would still be in play with Japan and others for our best players. As Stuckey mentioned before CB's and big strikers from Oz will always be on their menu because their one glaring weakness is lack of height and strength from their generics so over paying for that type of player is on the cards.
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Re: China's plan for football domination could transform the

Postby blahblah Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:13 am

It is an interesting question, one which was subject to an article in the Economist several years ago http://www.economist.com/node/21541716

One issue that the Chinese have is expectation. There is much pressure from the State for results, which leads to results led development rather than technique led development. It also leaves Chinese sides vulnerable to cracking under pressure; something we've seen on many an occasion at the national level.

In the end investment from China would be good for football here, especially if we look to expand the HAL, though I do hope Adelaide remains SA owned as there is something delightfully Quixotic about it which is part of the club's charm.
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Postby Stuckey Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:21 am

It is an interesting question, one which was subject to an article in the Economist several years ago http://www.economist.com/node/21541716

One issue that the Chinese have is expectation. There is much pressure from the State for results, which leads to results led development rather than technique led development. It also leaves Chinese sides vulnerable to cracking under pressure; something we've seen on many an occasion at the national level.

In the end investment from China would be good for football here, especially if we look to expand the HAL, though I do hope Adelaide remains SA owned as there is something delightfully Quixotic about it which is part of the club's charm.
Yeah I agree about SA ownership. I'm certain every HAL fan would want their club owned locally.
I have now read talk of CCM and Newcastle being looked at buy Chinese investors.
This is where I see these investors coming in, where there is less viability. Although I would rather see the FFA encourage interesting international parties expand the HAL.
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Postby Stuckey Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:02 pm

Nanjing: Chinese Super League outfit Jiangsu Sainty have pulled off a sensational transfer deal after signing Brazil international Ramires from English giants Chelsea ahead of their AFC Champions League campaign.
The move, which will see Ramires head to the Nanjing Olympic Sports Center after making 251 appearances in his five-and-a-half years at the Blues, is widely reported to have cost Jiangsu a fee of £25million.
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Postby Stuckey Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:40 pm

Chinese Super League side Hebei China Fortune have signed Gervinho from Roma for an initial fee of $27 million.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... hebei-move
Fredy Guarin has completed a move from Inter to Shanghai Shenhua for an undisclosed fee, the Super League club have announced.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... ai-shenhua

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Postby EdDog Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:03 pm

No one big for Shandong Lueng yet?

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Postby shinAUFC Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:09 pm

Chinese Super League side Hebei China Fortune have signed Gervinho from Roma for an initial fee of $27 million.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... hebei-move
Fredy Guarin has completed a move from Inter to Shanghai Shenhua for an undisclosed fee, the Super League club have announced.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... ai-shenhua

Wowzers this is getting crazy!
Great signings for the csl and for asia!

Will this make chinese clubs stronger? Its debatable as the standard of chinese players is not that great.

When they get their act together the csl and chinese national teams will be world powers
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Postby Stuckey Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:31 am

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Postby Stuckey Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:37 am

Chinese Super League side Hebei China Fortune have signed Gervinho from Roma for an initial fee of $27 million.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... hebei-move
Fredy Guarin has completed a move from Inter to Shanghai Shenhua for an undisclosed fee, the Super League club have announced.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... ai-shenhua

Wowzers this is getting crazy!
Great signings for the csl and for asia!

Will this make chinese clubs stronger? Its debatable as the standard of chinese players is not that great.

When they get their act together the csl and chinese national teams will be world powers
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The user Greenlion has talked about this on here before. He was saying how for all the money Guangzhou have spent on players significant money is being spent on player development as well. So it will be interesting in the future to see where the benefit of that money will be.
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Re: China's plan for football domination could transform the

Postby blahblah Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:19 am

No one big for Shandong Lueng yet?

I was thinking the same :D
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Postby Stuckey Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:49 am

They've just signed Brazilian defender Gil from Corinthians for around 10m Euro.
But they already have Diego Tardelli (Former Brazilian national team striker), Aloisio who topped the CSL scoring chart last season, Jucilei has played for the Brazilian NT and Walter Montillo their number 10 has played for Argentina several times.
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Postby Stuckey Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:36 am

The Chinese Super League have continued their spending spree with Guangzhou Evergrande signing Atletico Madrid striker Jackson Martinez for a fee of $70 million.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... llion-deal
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Postby Stuckey Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:39 am

Despite another January of big-money signings, the Chinese Super League (CSL) is unlikely to rival European competitions due to a lack of stability, according to former Newcastle Jets and Liaoning Whowin defender Josh Mitchell.
Read more at http://www.a-league.com.au/article/ex-n ... XMvgPY6.99

Interesting first hand account.
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