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Re: China's plan for football domination could transform the

Postby Stuckey Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:54 am

The best name of them all may be heading to China! :lol:
Arsenal old boy Nicklas Bendtner set to become latest big name joining the Chinese Super League
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... er-7397535

In other news Obafemi Martins is Tim Cahill's replacement at Shanghai Shenua.
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Postby shinAUFC Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:32 pm

I wonder if the chinese fa are looking to bring youngger prodigies to china like the UAE have done and keep them in china long enough to play for china under fifa laws.
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Postby blahblah Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:26 pm

I wonder if the chinese fa are looking to bring youngger prodigies to china like the UAE have done and keep them in china long enough to play for china under fifa laws.
I would be very surprised. Chinese nationalism is far too fierce for that scenario to unfold.
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Postby shinAUFC Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:16 pm

I wonder if the chinese fa are looking to bring youngger prodigies to china like the UAE have done and keep them in china long enough to play for china under fifa laws.
I would be very surprised. Chinese nationalism is far too fierce for that scenario to unfold.
Yeah im not even sure Chinese citizenship is possible to tet
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Re: China's plan for football domination could transform the HAL

Postby blahblah Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:08 am

Alipay has just announced a 10 year, USD145 million dollar investment in Women's Football in China via their charity.

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2019 ... ed-alipay/

With our new owners having such solid connections in China, will we see some cross-over in the Women's game? I think at times we are so focussed on the HAL we forget the possible opportunities for both South Australian and Chinese female footballers from this relationship.
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Re: China's plan for football domination could transform the HAL

Postby blahblah Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:28 am

Chinese football appears on the ropes at the moment with 2020 seeing Shanghai Shenxin, Tianjin Tianhai, Liaoning, Tianjin TEDA all folding and Jiangsu owners announcing yesterday they are getting out of football. These are big clubs in big cities.

That said, the model CSL clubs pursue is one that is fraught with governance and financial risk. Of the 16 clubs that are no longer in the CSL (since its inception in 2004), 12 are now defunct with only 4 surviving and plying their trade in Chinese League One.

The Chinese haven't been playing the long game when it comes to football. Some of their neighbours certainly have and the results speak for themselves. Gone are they days when an Asian face in a big European league was viewed as a money making venture, but those faces remain almost exclusively Korean or Japanese.
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Re: China's plan for football domination could transform the HAL

Postby sevengoals Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:01 am

Some more here ...
When Xi Jinping, the country’s president, made clear about a decade ago that it was time to end China’s football underachievement, conglomerates and other enterprises connected to the state moved quickly to get involved in the local game. We are finding out what happens to their football clubs when the businesses that own them start to struggle.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... l-struggle

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Postby Stuckey Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:28 am

Hopefully as the flash in the pan clubs fall away this gives AU's sister club more scope to slowly build! I still feel there is a massive potential once the world returns to some sort of normal that younger AU players struggling for decent game time would benefit greatly from a loan move to Qingdao should they be in the CSL 1.
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Postby blahblah Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:49 pm

Hopefully as the flash in the pan clubs fall away this gives AU's sister club more scope to slowly build! I still feel there is a massive potential once the world returns to some sort of normal that younger AU players struggling for decent game time would benefit greatly from a loan move to Qingdao should they be in the CSL 1.
That certainly is the hope, as development clubs such as Qingdao Red Lions have a lot to contribute.

One issue is the plethora of clubs in Qingdao; three in the third tier (including Red Lions) and one in the CSL (Qingdao Hainiu) as well as heavy weights Shandong Taishan (previously Shandong Luneng) who are in the same province.

You are correct, one or two of our players would benefit from regular game-time overseas. Offers a footballing, as well as life, experience.

A pity we received Yongbin Chen as his inclusion undermined a lot of fans' faith in receiving such players, which will make it much harder for the next Chinese player who is afforded such an opportunity. I do see he is included in the Red Lions' squad (at least on the Wikipedia page).
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Postby Stuckey Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:19 am

I haven't read a lot about Yongbin. I think the club could have done more to explain why he was here and if the scheme to share players such as this is something they are aiming to build upon. It would be great to hear from Yongbin in some capacity to see if he and Qinqdao feel his time in Adelaide was worthwhile.
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Postby blahblah Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:00 pm

I haven't read a lot about Yongbin. I think the club could have done more to explain why he was here and if the scheme to share players such as this is something they are aiming to build upon. It would be great to hear from Yongbin in some capacity to see if he and Qinqdao feel his time in Adelaide was worthwhile.
Good point. Qingdao Red Lions have a prominent position on the AUFC website so it would be good to have some feedback placed there.
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Postby blahblah Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:46 am

Jiangsu have been formally cut from the league as have four other sides in the second and third tiers.
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Postby blahblah Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:44 am

My how things have changed. Evergrande Property Group is collapsing under a USD300Billion debt and as a result Moneybags FC are turning to the government with cap in hand. Poor things.

Things are likely to change in the CSL with the huge vanity funding no longer being a tool for garnering favour with the government. This, coupled with the dethroning by the government of high profile businesspeople and actors, will mean the high profile, profligate world of Chinese football may be set for a seismic shift.

http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2021 ... h-support/

The public frustration over the performance of the national team isn't helping.

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