New owners?
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- shinAUFC
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Re: New owners?
The videos posted about the clubs 15 year anniversay and formation in the nsl were fantastic.
They really went in depth and covered things that long term fans would be interested in .
Regardless of onfield performances i feel like the old days are making a comeback reminiscent of pickard and bianco and its taken a dutchman and chinese investors to make it happen.
The one gripe i have which is not the new owners fault at all is all this emphasis on rebuilding the youth academies and producing our own talent....
We have just had 2 La masia veterans run this club (with distinction) but did not capitalise on any potential legacy from their work.
If only the stars aligned and we had gombau and amor at this club with owners who moved to the same beat.
They really went in depth and covered things that long term fans would be interested in .
Regardless of onfield performances i feel like the old days are making a comeback reminiscent of pickard and bianco and its taken a dutchman and chinese investors to make it happen.
The one gripe i have which is not the new owners fault at all is all this emphasis on rebuilding the youth academies and producing our own talent....
We have just had 2 La masia veterans run this club (with distinction) but did not capitalise on any potential legacy from their work.
If only the stars aligned and we had gombau and amor at this club with owners who moved to the same beat.
Ppl who slap the label of truth on the 1st thing they hear, do it out of ignorance, convenience or cant be bothered picking through a thin layer of falsehood to find the real truth, or possibly even another lie
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Re: New owners?
Yeah I agree. Although Kurz does appear to be focused on development to an extent. He mentioned he'd rather see the money the FFA spent on Honda go to an additional youth player on each HAL squad's bench.The videos posted about the clubs 15 year anniversay and formation in the nsl were fantastic.
They really went in depth and covered things that long term fans would be interested in .
Regardless of onfield performances i feel like the old days are making a comeback reminiscent of pickard and bianco and its taken a dutchman and chinese investors to make it happen.
The one gripe i have which is not the new owners fault at all is all this emphasis on rebuilding the youth academies and producing our own talent....
We have just had 2 La masia veterans run this club (with distinction) but did not capitalise on any potential legacy from their work.
If only the stars aligned and we had gombau and amor at this club with owners who moved to the same beat.
I still believe the only way AU will ever compete with the big club's in the HAL is thru a strong focus on bringing young players thru the ranks so I hope this is something the club keeps working on.
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Re: New owners?
Interesting article by Bonita Mersiades - an overview of each club's ownership.
http://footballtoday.news/features/long ... gue-owners
Here's the section relevant to Adelaide United:
http://footballtoday.news/features/long ... gue-owners
Here's the section relevant to Adelaide United:
I don't understand much about the business world but it looks like a tangled web of companies and subsidiaries ... should we be worried about how opaque it all is & the lack of info about the anonymous investors behind the scenes?Adelaide United
Although Adelaide United Chairman, Piet van der Pol, has worked in football for 15 years, it is unlikely that he has ever been in roles where he earned enough to be able to afford an A-League club license and its subsequent operational costs. He is on the record as saying that the investors include two other Dutch nationals and one Chinese national, including one of the Netherlands’ richest men, but they wish to remain anonymous to "protect their privacy".
It is unclear why Adelaide United is not transparent about their ownership, and it is almost as mysterious that Adelaide United fans seem happy not to know.
Van der Pol is President and CEO of Qingdao Red Lions in Shandong province, a club he formed with Rob van Eck and former Adelaide United Board member, Bruno Marveggio in 2016. The club's naming rights sponsor is Fortschritt, a German company listed in Hong Kong, that manufactures agricultural machinery.
Adelaide United is owned by Australian Football Opportunities Pty Ltd which in turn is owned by the Hong Kong registered Global Football Opportunities. The sole director of each is given as the 47-year-old van der Pol.
The initial shareholder and first director of Global Football Opportunities was Rob van Eck who, like Martin Lee, has substantial business structures in Shenzhen, China, where he has been based for 13 years.
Amongst other things, van Eck is the Managing Director of Smart Brands International, which is involved with the development, production and worldwide distribution of high quality consumer goods under major retail brands including Goodyear, Dunlop and Grundig.
He is also involved with a number of similar companies, including Shenzhen Intra Industry, a trading group that exports products for retailers worldwide, working closely with Dutch family-owned trading company, EDCO, and Shenzhen ATR. EDCO is owned by the Adriaanse family, and the head of SZATR is Mr Yu Li Dong. It is understood that van Eck, Adriaanse and Yu were co-directors in a company known as Jaliro International (made up of the first two letters of each of their given names - Ja Li Ro) which is also involved in import/export.
Van Eck established Global Football Opportunities in October 2017; van der Pol was made the sole director in February this year. Via Adelaide accounting firm, Tilbrook Rasheed, van der Pol established Australian Football Opportunities in February with the initial transfer of shares to Adelaide United taking place on 7 March.
The directors of Adelaide United and Australian Football Opportunities are van der Pol and David Rasheed, who is also Company Secretary.
Ownership
Netherlands: 75%; China 25%
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Re: New owners?
Ive actually wondered why Val hasnt pressed hard on this issue.
I imagine the article is already written just waiting for the first sense of a crisis at the club.
They are valid points though, it would be nice to know where the money is coming from. Much the same if we were owned by a russian oligarch.
I imagine the article is already written just waiting for the first sense of a crisis at the club.
They are valid points though, it would be nice to know where the money is coming from. Much the same if we were owned by a russian oligarch.
Ppl who slap the label of truth on the 1st thing they hear, do it out of ignorance, convenience or cant be bothered picking through a thin layer of falsehood to find the real truth, or possibly even another lie
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Re: New owners?
Personally, I'm not too interested in who the owners are, or how much money they have, or what industries they make their money in. As long as they're not fraudulent or involved in an industry like armaments, gambling, sex, cigarettes or alcohol.
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You contradicted your first statement with this. Regardless, I feel the same but because I don't know who they are I can't be sure about them. In all likelihood they are not involved in anything I'd find morally or ethically objectionable but there's still doubt there.Personally, I'm not too interested in who the owners are, or how much money they have, or what industries they make their money in. As long as they're not fraudulent or involved in an industry like armaments, gambling, sex, cigarettes or alcohol.
I didn't really like Bonita's assertion that "Adelaide fans are happy not to know" because I think there are plenty of us who do want to. It's just a honeymoon period at the moment where fans are optimistic about a chance for change.
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yeah that's it, just having a little breather until the next wave of pessimism holds us down
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So can we definitely rule out that we are not owned by a group called Argasecial? Hope soPersonally, I'm not too interested in who the owners are, or how much money they have, or what industries they make their money in. As long as they're not fraudulent or involved in an industry like armaments, gambling, sex, cigarettes or alcohol.
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I have respect for mersiades, so im curious if she knows more than she may be able to publish?
Also agree that its a little rough on AUFC fans that she is assuming we dont care. I suspect this issue is on a slow boil and will come to a head at some stage
Also agree that its a little rough on AUFC fans that she is assuming we dont care. I suspect this issue is on a slow boil and will come to a head at some stage
Ppl who slap the label of truth on the 1st thing they hear, do it out of ignorance, convenience or cant be bothered picking through a thin layer of falsehood to find the real truth, or possibly even another lie
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Re: New owners?
Anyone watch Ozark on netflix. this makes me think of that
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Re: New owners?
I think the article implies that the named people and businesses are the likely owners.
Re: New owners?
Spot on, I think so too.I think the article implies that the named people and businesses are the likely owners.
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Re: New owners?
I do hope that our owners are not getting jittery in relation to the China-Australia diplomatic spat.
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I do hope that our owners are not getting jittery in relation to the China-Australia diplomatic spat.
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