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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby rug21 Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:40 am

also "Adelaide United lawyers filed a cross action, claiming Coolen made misleading statements in his resume(sic) that would have made his contract void."
That he can actually coach :D
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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby Agostinho Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:10 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Coolen is justified in pursuing this?

Sure he was a poor coach, but the club are the ones stupid enough to sign him up on a long term contract. And yes, I know they didn't sack him - but they what they did to force him to walk away. IMO Rini deserves (in a contractural sense, not based on his abilities) severance.

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Postby Agostinho Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:12 pm

also "Adelaide United lawyers filed a cross action, claiming Coolen made misleading statements in his resume(sic) that would have made his contract void."
Perhaps a fair arguement (although not sure it would hold any bearing in court) for hiring him in the first place - but then they went ahead and extended his contract based on performance so seems a bit of a straw man argument.
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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby shinAUFC Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:20 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Coolen is justified in pursuing this?

Sure he was a poor coach, but the club are the ones stupid enough to sign him up on a long term contract. And yes, I know they didn't sack him - but they what they did to force him to walk away. IMO Rini deserves (in a contractural sense, not based on his abilities) severance.

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I tend to agree with you, although without having read the actual contract its hard to say one way or another.

In everyday working life, making an employee do duties below their payroll in hope they will quit can be seen as a form of bullying or intimidation which is not allowed in australian work place.

But im no lawyer but au is full of lawyers so who knows
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Postby ganas Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:20 am

Am I the only one who thinks Coolen is justified in pursuing this?

Sure he was a poor coach, but the club are the ones stupid enough to sign him up on a long term contract. And yes, I know they didn't sack him - but they what they did to force him to walk away. IMO Rini deserves (in a contractural sense, not based on his abilities) severance.

Everything this administration does makes them look amateur.
i completely agree. he should be paid out in full. i know he was a shit coach, but he moved his whole family here on a contract for 4 years for a certain amount of money. you cant just push him aside and make him quit. he is owed his money and AUFC should be paying him out.
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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby davidbloop Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:46 am

I haven't read his contract so I'm in no place to justify either side of the conflict being either right or wrong.


That's really all there is to it. Rini may be entitled, he may not be. I am not one to try and make that assessment though because I do not know the details.
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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby Interloper Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:24 am

Am I the only one who thinks Coolen is justified in pursuing this?

Sure he was a poor coach, but the club are the ones stupid enough to sign him up on a long term contract. And yes, I know they didn't sack him - but they what they did to force him to walk away. IMO Rini deserves (in a contractural sense, not based on his abilities) severance.

Everything this administration does makes them look amateur.
I tentatively agree. pending knowledge of actual facts.

I thought cutting him loose when they did (or before) would be worth the expense. I figured it would be handled with more grace though... and that none of the other spectacular administrative errors of last season would be made.
Perhaps a fair arguement (although not sure it would hold any bearing in court) for hiring him in the first place - but then they went ahead and extended his contract based on performance so seems a bit of a straw man argument.
It's not unheard of to have to 'reapply' for a promotion/extension of your current position with the full works including résumé/interview etc. (I'm in that process right now.)

If I had to be extremely speculative based on no evidence, I think the United board might say that Rini falsely claimed credit for Stubbins work early in 2010/11
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Postby ChillyPhilly Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:25 pm

Two birds with one stone: Update in the paper and on AdelaideNow.

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Postby Max Power Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:25 am

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Link?
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Postby ADEL-GOONERS Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:00 pm

iv got to say thats what i have been tinking, i thought stubbins was the one that did all the work , and when rinnies plans started to take affect , thats when things stared going wrong, ill probably get hammerd for this but when they sacked rinni i was hoping stubsy was going to get the nod
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Postby sevengoals Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:54 pm

^^^
I'm sure you were not the only one.


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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby ChillyPhilly Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:21 pm

Somehow Stubbins was sacked when his Thai club (Insee Police United) was doing quite well. Perplexing..

But that said, Coolen's influence and change ultimately undid the team. Up until mid-November, 2010, Stubbins ran training sessions. Maybe we were always going to lose to the Tards at the Tard Dome. Maybe Brisbane at Suncorp too. Rini's sessions were low intensity, shape-based and ran for hours and hours.
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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby ChillyPhilly Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:43 pm

Contract dispute to be settled in January, possibly November if there's time. Coolen's staying until 'the end of the school year'.

http://www.news.com.au/national/former- ... 6471292414
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Re: Rini Coolen takes Adelaide United to court.

Postby ChillyPhilly Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:18 pm

Update:

November 23: Trial to happen in January.
'FORMER Adelaide United coach Rini Coolen's legal battle against the A-League soccer club will go to trial in January, before his visa expires.'
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6523021519

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December 6: It's now looking somewhat unlikely that the trial can happen next month - the month of expiry of Rini's tourist visa - because Greg Griffin is friends with some members of the jury.
'However, Judge Paul Slattery today said that may prove difficult because of the relationship between members of the judiciary and Adelaide United chairman and prominent sports lawyer Greg Griffin.'
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6531227871

Another take on the same issue from ABC: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-06/l ... tion=sport

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Also, if you feel like trolling, here's Rini's LinkedIn profile: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/rini-coolen/4b/796/983
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