VAR Shenanigans
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Re: VAR Shenanigans
VAR makes an appearance.
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Re: VAR Shenanigans
Looks like another season to be destroyed by VAR, following the World Cup which VAR also wrecked.
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Re: VAR Shenanigans
I think if the ref makes a call and the VAR is inconclusive like it was in the Melbourne derby, then he should just stick with his original decision which was a free outside the box. No way it was a penality.
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I won't be popular with this view, but .... I think the ref did it the right way:I think if the ref makes a call and the VAR is inconclusive like it was in the Melbourne derby, then he should just stick with his original decision which was a free outside the box. No way it was a penality.
1) ref makes the call about foul or not, and about inside or outside the box
2) checks VAR
2a) was it clearly not a foul? - VAR is inconclusive, so his call stands, it's a foul.
2b) was it clearly not outside the box? - VAR is conclusive, it's inside the box, therefore a penalty.
Personally, I think that actually it wasn't a foul, but once the ref called it and the VAR was inconclusive, I think 'penalty' was the only decision he could make once he'd viewed it.
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Re: VAR Shenanigans
VAR rears its ugly head.
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You are right, I just feel there is usually a difference between fouls inside the box and fouls outside. There was such minimal contact.I won't be popular with this view, but .... I think the ref did it the right way:I think if the ref makes a call and the VAR is inconclusive like it was in the Melbourne derby, then he should just stick with his original decision which was a free outside the box. No way it was a penality.
1) ref makes the call about foul or not, and about inside or outside the box
2) checks VAR
2a) was it clearly not a foul? - VAR is inconclusive, so his call stands, it's a foul.
2b) was it clearly not outside the box? - VAR is conclusive, it's inside the box, therefore a penalty.
Personally, I think that actually it wasn't a foul, but once the ref called it and the VAR was inconclusive, I think 'penalty' was the only decision he could make once he'd viewed it.
Again, it is technically the "correct" decision but the original decision was super soft.
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Re: VAR Shenanigans
VAR strikes in the Sydney derby.
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OMG. Wellington on the end of what I think is the worst VAR decision we've seen.
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Utter joke.OMG. Wellington on the end of what I think is the worst VAR decision we've seen.
Won't get any attention though because it didn't happen to an eastern seaboard team.
I feel sorry for Rudan and Wellington. Arguably cost them 2 points.
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I think the current var set up shows the power of persuasion.
Refs are making bad decisions because their buddies in the stand says “ u better look at this again” so when they review the footage they are already looking at it with the preconceived notion that they missed something.
It ultimately easier for the ref to go along with VAR rather than review the footage and say “ no i got it right the first time”
Refs are making bad decisions because their buddies in the stand says “ u better look at this again” so when they review the footage they are already looking at it with the preconceived notion that they missed something.
It ultimately easier for the ref to go along with VAR rather than review the footage and say “ no i got it right the first time”
Ppl who slap the label of truth on the 1st thing they hear, do it out of ignorance, convenience or cant be bothered picking through a thin layer of falsehood to find the real truth, or possibly even another lie
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Re: VAR Shenanigans
Yeah I think you're right. Down the track I reckon we'll start to see the more inexperienced refs altering more of their decisions compared to more experienced ones. Its pretty natural to expect a ref with less than 10 games experience is going to go along with the VAR ref if that's someone like Griffiths-Jones who has years of HAL experience. I'm happy to see VAR stuck with though. I think as the refs get more used to using it we'll see it used less.I think the current var set up shows the power of persuasion.
Refs are making bad decisions because their buddies in the stand says “ u better look at this again” so when they review the footage they are already looking at it with the preconceived notion that they missed something.
It ultimately easier for the ref to go along with VAR rather than review the footage and say “ no i got it right the first time”
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