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Melbourne City

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:55 am
by Stuckey
MELBOURNE City maintains it is not about to completely ditch its red and white Melbourne Heart roots.

But a long-anticipated switch to an all “City Blue” kit — akin to that worn by parent club Manchester City — appears inevitable for season 2017-18.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/footb ... d26b4cb397

I find it funny that visa quotas and player payment decisions that have massive influence on club's structure are worked out only months before they are implemented. But something as trivial as what colour a club is wearing needs years of planning and negotiations.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:45 pm
by blahblah
Sydney were being terribly precious regarding their attempts own a colour. I'm glad City are in the colour of their choosing and hopefully we can put the notion of "one team, one colour" to bed.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:40 am
by Stuckey
Sydney were being terribly precious regarding their attempts own a colour. I'm glad City are in the colour of their choosing and hopefully we can put the notion of "one team, one colour" to bed.
Plus I really can't see the FFA stopping a new club from playing in red if they wanted.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:48 am
by Stuckey
So Timmy has signed for City. The saga is over we can all move on with out lives!

I still can't believe they are paying a 38 year old $2m a year.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:54 am
by EdDog
I'm interested to see how he goes but not even the slightest bit concerned about playing against him.

Will probably get the run of the green by the refs though.

Will look forward to seeing him at Hindmarsh. We only play them once here so hopefully he comes across.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:55 am
by Stuckey
I think the thing I'm dreading about this signing is that the FFA are funding part of it. So we're going to have nothing but Saint Timmy in the media and the FFA will certainly "protect" their investment.
Just another drop in the credibility of the HAL IMO.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:57 am
by Stuckey
I'm interested to see how he goes but not even the slightest bit concerned about playing against him.

Will probably get the run of the green by the refs though.

Will look forward to seeing him at Hindmarsh. We only play them once here so hopefully he comes across.
Hopefully he pulls the crowds. If he sells out Hindmarsh (I doubt he will but there will be a boost in crowds) then I'll be satisfied he was worth it.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:58 am
by EdDog
I think the thing I'm dreading about this signing is that the FFA are funding part of it. So we're going to have nothing but Saint Timmy in the media and the FFA will certainly "protect" their investment.
Just another drop in the credibility of the HAL IMO.
Pros and cons always.

I'm glad it will raise the profile of the league in a year when we are renegotiating the TV deal.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:05 am
by Stuckey
I think the thing I'm dreading about this signing is that the FFA are funding part of it. So we're going to have nothing but Saint Timmy in the media and the FFA will certainly "protect" their investment.
Just another drop in the credibility of the HAL IMO.
Pros and cons always.

I'm glad it will raise the profile of the league in a year when we are renegotiating the TV deal.
Of course everything hinges on the TV deal.

As I've said I'd just rather see the FFA use high profile players like to Timmy to either provide a foundation for new clubs.

One thing I'd love to see is over the course of this season look at something like the HAL twitter account and see how much air time Timmy gets compared to AU.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:17 am
by View From The Top
Absolutely disgusting that the FFA is helping out the only club in the A-League that has the financial might of the City Group behind it.

Meanwhile Central Coast, Newcastle and AU have to struggle by on peanuts.

If I was an owner I'd be handing in my license and walking away. So just as well I'm not!

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:23 am
by blahblah
I would imagine that we'll have a decent crowd when City rock up to Coopers.

Our challenge, as it has always been, is to defeat such sides using our own business model. It makes our victories all the sweeter :) .

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:26 am
by Stuckey
Absolutely disgusting that the FFA is helping out the only club in the A-League that has the financial might of the City Group behind it.

Meanwhile Central Coast, Newcastle and AU have to struggle by on peanuts.

If I was an owner I'd be handing in my license and walking away. So just as well I'm not!
I guess they could argue that the smaller clubs will also benefit from this with a boost in crowds for their home games when Timmy comes.
Hopefully we see a ADP effect where all the other clubs benefit from his hype coming to town. But he brings bugger all to the side he plays for.
Although I'm skeptical that Timmy will lure as much of a boost to attendances as ADP did.
IMO the key to a player boosting attendances is luring the Euro-snobs along. Timmy won't do that.
He'll probably lure kids along who love Timmy from the Socceroos games.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:39 am
by shinAUFC
Absolutely disgusting that the FFA is helping out the only club in the A-League that has the financial might of the City Group behind it.

Meanwhile Central Coast, Newcastle and AU have to struggle by on peanuts.

If I was an owner I'd be handing in my license and walking away. So just as well I'm not!
Totally agree.

Will timmy be protected by the refs in the same way adp was?

It rips a huge hole in the leagues integrity given tim cahill is ffa's investment. For ffa to get return on their investment they need him to score and city to go deep into the finals.

there are far too many conflicts of interest here. It will probably attracts the thrill seekers but the shine will wear off after a few months and they wont be back. Only to shun football fants who want a strong domestic league that is growing organically.

Edit/
7 million for a 2 season deal!!! Seriously wtf! I really want to know how much ffa chipped in. That is an insane amount for someone turning 37 in december on top of having 2 other marquees.

Robbie keane is on US$3.5 million but scores for absolute fun
Pirlo is on US$5 million.

Cahill is not a 3.5million a season player, how marketable will he be when he struggles to score and starts blaming the ref.

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:42 pm
by Futbol_Crazy21
Does anyone know if that $7 mil is guaranteed? Or are there some performance/ticketing/merchandise sales clauses in there that make up that figure?

Re: Melbourne City

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:20 pm
by shinAUFC
Does anyone know if that $7 mil is guaranteed? Or are there some performance/ticketing/merchandise sales clauses in there that make up that figure?
im also curious if thats including ffa's contribution and 3rd party sponsorships.

The other thing i dont understand is how can city sign him for 2 years when he was signed under a 1 year guest player rule?

Given that there is supposedly strict criteria in the guest players marketability for them to be approved , how can ffa be sure cahil will meet requirments next season if he cannot score this season ?