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Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:38 pm
by Stuckey
I would be. It wouldn't surprise me (unless something changes) that the FFA want start up clubs coming in not pre-existing NSL club
They may go for a new club that is owned/backed by an ex-NSL club, similar to the Port Power scenario.
I think that would at least be a decent compromise from both parties. Although personally I'd much rather see old clubs come in as they are.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:44 pm
by EdDog
If they're going to go down the franchise route then they need to do what they did with WSW.

Entirely community developed (name, badge, colours etc.).

Worked an absolute treat.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:06 pm
by General Ashnak
Easier and cheaper to bring in NPL clubs with existing support bases and revenue streams, especially their own stadiums.

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Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:31 pm
by Futbol_Crazy21
It was reported that the FFA are trying to secure a $100m per year tv deal for 5 years. If that can happen then hallelujah the A-League might see some more stable times for its existing clubs and to see some new ones come in!

I think South Melbourne have grown as much as an NPL club can possibly do. Idk of any other state based side that has had the sustained support and success off the field. I reckon they'd be good for the A-League if we're talking about including them in the next 5 years. Same goes for Wollongong and Canberra.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:39 am
by Stuckey
It was reported that the FFA are trying to secure a $100m per year tv deal for 5 years. If that can happen then hallelujah the A-League might see some more stable times for its existing clubs and to see some new ones come in!

I think South Melbourne have grown as much as an NPL club can possibly do. Idk of any other state based side that has had the sustained support and success off the field. I reckon they'd be good for the A-League if we're talking about including them in the next 5 years. Same goes for Wollongong and Canberra.
I just fear where that money is going to go. Undoubtedly the PFA will have their hand out. I'd love to see very little of this money go towards existing HAL clubs. AU have shown with a very low revenue stream sustainability is achievable.
Put a significant amount of the supposed increase into developing the NPL and work towards that becoming a league of it's own and then look at opening up promotion to the HAL from their. 10 years of one team getting promoted each year then look at relegation.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:21 am
by Stuckey
Fans wanting a 12-team competition could have their wish granted "sooner rather than later" but those clamouring for promotion and relegation that would put Australian football in line with most countries in the world will have to wait indefinitely ... and that's coming from the horse's mouth.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/ ... relegation

I reckon a South Sydney team and another from an area of actual demand (Canberra, SE QLD or another Melbourne club) and that's going to be it for quite some time.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:01 pm
by Futbol_Crazy21
Its been mentioned before but 12 teams will either mean a 22 game season or a 33 game season and plus finals. I don't think either of those is ideal foe longer than 1 season.

14 teams can give us a 26 game season plus finals. This will give all teams an even amount of home games (something we don't have now) and it won't force the teams to play mid week games or move the start and end time of the league.

Wollongong, Canberra and 2 big population teams (South Melbourne, 3rd Sydney, 2nd Brisbane or Auckland) would be ideal i think.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:50 pm
by Stuckey
Its been mentioned before but 12 teams will either mean a 22 game season or a 33 game season and plus finals. I don't think either of those is ideal foe longer than 1 season.

14 teams can give us a 26 game season plus finals. This will give all teams an even amount of home games (something we don't have now) and it won't force the teams to play mid week games or move the start and end time of the league.

Wollongong, Canberra and 2 big population teams (South Melbourne, 3rd Sydney, 2nd Brisbane or Auckland) would be ideal i think.
I'd be more than happy with a 33 games season. 27 is far too short. In reality its only 3 weeks either side of the season. Less if they decide to include mid-week rounds which I'd love to see over the holiday period. Chock that part of the year full of games! A more condensed season means there is more chances for young kids to be offered a chance to make the big time as well.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:02 am
by RedsUnited
EDIT: This tweet and EOI of an "A2 League" is brilliant.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:28 am
by Stuckey
EDIT: This tweet and EOI of an "A2 League" is brilliant.
As long as a TV station/s can fund it. It'll happen. That's what it comes down to.
Considering the NPL has nothing more than a poorly promoted live stream. It's hard to see this being likely for some time.

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Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:12 am
by RedsUnited
I think the way the EOI has structured the introduction of expansion teams, a national second division plus gradual inclusion of pro/rel is what makes it an attractive model.

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:41 pm
by Stuckey
I think the way the EOI has structured the introduction of expansion teams, a national second division plus gradual inclusion of pro/rel is what makes it an attractive model.
That's true.

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Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:08 pm
by ZANZIBAR
Miron bleiberg saying there isna group ready to create a second brisbane club. Not sire what i think if that

Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:09 pm
by Stuckey
I reckon if somehow Brisbane had a stadium like AAMI park in Melbourne it would work.

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Re: HAL Expansion

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:15 pm
by ZANZIBAR
Foxtel ratings up big time. Last year only 5 games got over 100k ratings. This year 7 of the 15 have broken 100k. Sbs ratings up 37%. Crowds up 12%.