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Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:24 pm
by Stuckey
home GF is important.
FFA cup final could be experimented on and put in one location? it's a flip of the coin to see who hosts, and by flip of a coin I mean whatever option makes the most money for the FFA.
I can see us not playing a single game at home this FFA cup run. which means fans are not engaged
The central location of an FFA Cup final does make sense but I very much doubt a stadium the size of ANZ stadium would be needed for a final at this stage.
Somewhere like AAMI park would IMO be perfect.

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 5:11 pm
by ZANZIBAR
yes I was thinking like Canberra stadium, give the locals a chance to get interested and truly neutral to both sides.
you could expect 5-10k from Canberra, then a few thousand from each club and you get a decent enough crowd plus growth in a potential market.

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 11:27 am
by Stuckey
yes I was thinking like Canberra stadium, give the locals a chance to get interested and truly neutral to both sides.
you could expect 5-10k from Canberra, then a few thousand from each club and you get a decent enough crowd plus growth in a potential market.
Yeah that's not a bad idea either.

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:09 pm
by red wombat
I disagree with the neutral venue. Giving a home gf to the team that finishes higher is just another reward for their home and away success. We've only got a problem this year because the FFA stuffed up and put themselves in the AFLs hands. I don't think that's a basis for a neutral ground.

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:59 pm
by sevengoals
By the way,
Figures indicate home sides in are increasingly unlikely to benefit from playing on their own turf – a historical trend not limited to Australia

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... -advantage


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Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:53 pm
by red wombat
By the way,
Figures indicate home sides in are increasingly unlikely to benefit from playing on their own turf – a historical trend not limited to Australia

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... -advantage


B)
All the more reason to ensure the MV gets a home gf :box:

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:11 am
by Max Power
So 18,000 turned up to watch AFL at Etihad as opposed to the 30,000 at AAMI Park. Monumental screw up by the A League.

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:19 am
by Stuckey
So 18,000 turned up to watch AFL at Etihad as opposed to the 30,000 at AAMI Park. Monumental screw up by the A League.
Why? The AFL booked the stadium at the start of the year. FFA can't book every stadium in Australia in case the club there makes the GF.

I hear the FFA and Vic Gov were offered to move the game but I doubt that would have been a cheap exercise.

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 4:47 pm
by Interloper
So 18,000 turned up to watch AFL at Etihad as opposed to the 30,000 at AAMI Park. Monumental screw up by the A League.
Why? The AFL booked the stadium at the start of the year. FFA can't book every stadium in Australia in case the club there makes the GF.

I hear the FFA and Vic Gov were offered to move the game but I doubt that would have been a cheap exercise.
According to The Age, it was was costed at $1m for a move to Whitten Oval, $700k to Kardinia Park.

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 5:48 pm
by Stuckey
That's a pretty serious cost to add to the running of an event. Uncle Frank would have to learn some new tricks to pay for that!

Re: 2014/2015 Dream Grand Final

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:34 pm
by Interloper
The main expense would have been potential/required refunds. But an extra 23k at $70 a head would more than cover it.

Also, an obvious 3rd relocation choice for Bulldogs vs Dockers would have been Princes Park which is just down the road (unlike Kardinia Park), has sufficient capacity without needing temporary seating (unlike Whitten Oval,) and probably would have been much cheaper as a result.

I don't buy the excuse that it was too late for the AFL to shift their match, nor that asking the FFA the cost of moving the AFL match was excessive (or at least unaffordable.) Which is why I don't think the full story is out.