A-League Men 2022/23
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- Woy of the Wovers
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Sydney 58 got 40 points deduction (suspended) for singing songs and doing Nazi salutes.
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Tough one. Flare shouldn't be on the pitch in the first place. If he's thrown it accidentally into the crowd then it is harsh to blame him, but intentionally is a different story (and impossible to distinguish).Brings into question the integrity of the league? When did this league have integrity?I may have a short memory but I feel like the action of these "fans" is one of the worst things to happen in the A-League's short history. As such I think it warranted a harsher response.
Loss of competition points and at least the City game being a 0-3 loss to Victory.
I can sort of understand, in this league where television rights dominate decision making, the requirement to replay it but it just brings into question the integrity of the league.
Big fine plus they'll lose revenue and fans over this but some points deducted immediately would have been warranted.
I still think Glover is lucky to get away without any sanction, what a stupid thing to do and I feel like if he didn't get hurt/injured he may have gotten into trouble. I know that's a contentious opinion but I've seen others elsewhere have similar opinions including the Mariners coach.
In future I guess flares need to be left to security to deal with.
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Absolutely spot on BP. This league has just prostituted its GFs for the next 3 years, for 30 pieces of silver. The APL would not know 'integrity' if it tripped over it on the street.Brings into question the integrity of the league? When did this league have integrity?I may have a short memory but I feel like the action of these "fans" is one of the worst things to happen in the A-League's short history. As such I think it warranted a harsher response.
Loss of competition points and at least the City game being a 0-3 loss to Victory.
I can sort of understand, in this league where television rights dominate decision making, the requirement to replay it but it just brings into question the integrity of the league.
Big fine plus they'll lose revenue and fans over this but some points deducted immediately would have been warranted.
I still think Glover is lucky to get away without any sanction, what a stupid thing to do and I feel like if he didn't get hurt/injured he may have gotten into trouble. I know that's a contentious opinion but I've seen others elsewhere have similar opinions including the Mariners coach.
All that notwithstanding, I totally agree that Glover should never have thrown the flare back into the crowd. Yes, they were moron filth fans who threw it in the first place, but flares are burning phosphorous and are incredibly dangerous. (Phosphorous weapons, as an aside, have already been banned in modern warfare). I suspect that if TG could have his time over, he would leave the burning flare for the security personnel with their sand buckets.
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Football Australia handle the punishment here, not APL.
A forfeit was never on. No sporting competition in the world is going to do anything that remotely suggests fan action like this can affect the result. It's also interesting that the "resume from 22 minutes at 1-0" thing is being read as 'classic a-league', when the truth seems much closer to "This is what everywhere else in the world does and we aren't deviating from it."
Personally I think the end result is disappointing. FA's initial statement in the immediate aftermath was very strong and I was hoping for decisive action as a result. While the financial hit is significant and probably enough to send a "We're fucking serious" message to all clubs. Everything else is weak as hell.
Glover deserved a suspension*, City needed to explain their own fans, Victory needed points penalties for this season and next + suspended additional penalties with a much lower threshold to take effect.
*Glover played the next week. Probably useful ammunition for the defense lawyer when bin throwing guy is sentenced for his crimes.
A forfeit was never on. No sporting competition in the world is going to do anything that remotely suggests fan action like this can affect the result. It's also interesting that the "resume from 22 minutes at 1-0" thing is being read as 'classic a-league', when the truth seems much closer to "This is what everywhere else in the world does and we aren't deviating from it."
Personally I think the end result is disappointing. FA's initial statement in the immediate aftermath was very strong and I was hoping for decisive action as a result. While the financial hit is significant and probably enough to send a "We're fucking serious" message to all clubs. Everything else is weak as hell.
Glover deserved a suspension*, City needed to explain their own fans, Victory needed points penalties for this season and next + suspended additional penalties with a much lower threshold to take effect.
*Glover played the next week. Probably useful ammunition for the defense lawyer when bin throwing guy is sentenced for his crimes.
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Re the threshold to activate the points deduction - I agree, way too low.
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I think that’s the best outcome we could have hoped for, following MV’s pitch invasion.
Can’t believe OSM are doubling down, rather than seeking a re-branded reinvention.
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CCM lead Macarthur 2-0 after 27 minutes. Maybe our 4-0 loss with 10 men wasn’t as bad as it seemed? ![😁](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/emojione/assets/svg/1f601.svg)
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Unlike us, Macarthur came out second half and made a game of it.CCM lead Macarthur 2-0 after 27 minutes. Maybe our 4-0 loss with 10 men wasn’t as bad as it seemed?![]()
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It literally would have been better to have done nothing and given up. One meeting and They've completely capitulated to the APL on behalf of all fans in exchange for nothing.I think that’s the best outcome we could have hoped for, following MV’s pitch invasion.
Can’t believe OSM are doubling down, rather than seeking a re-branded reinvention.
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Watching Perth v Victory. (I know.)
No wonder they’re both down near the bottom. Both playing at million miles an hour playing one & two touch football, with every second or third pass missing the intended target. Then rinse and recycle. It’s basketball.
No wonder they’re both down near the bottom. Both playing at million miles an hour playing one & two touch football, with every second or third pass missing the intended target. Then rinse and recycle. It’s basketball.
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These three 2 all draws today have worked in our favour.
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Indeed. Now, can we capitalise on it?These three 2 all draws today have worked in our favour.
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So far so good ...Indeed. Now, can we capitalise on it?These three 2 all draws today have worked in our favour.
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